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question as to whether he would run for although term because he would be just presiding over years of deficits and budget. bl >> belva: dan, what about the state? what shape will the state be in? because this is all about services to people. >> well, i think they'll be in a big pickle. they are going to be in a situation unless the economy picks up very dramatically and there are absolutely no signs that california is going to come to boom any time soon. then, what you are dealing with here is basically a state budget that is anywhere between 10% and 15% out of whack. that the revenues are 10% to 15% below their spending commitments. and that's going to be very, very painful. you're going to see it in a lot of things. but you know, there's -- on the other hand, and there is always another hand in politics, if he's successful and gets this thing passed, he also runs the risk of kind of a volatility. he's basically betting the state's future on a handful, basically, 150,000 california taxpayers, out of 38 million people, that they are going to do well enough to raise all this money that he think
question as to whether he would run for although term because he would be just presiding over years of deficits and budget. bl >> belva: dan, what about the state? what shape will the state be in? because this is all about services to people. >> well, i think they'll be in a big pickle. they are going to be in a situation unless the economy picks up very dramatically and there are absolutely no signs that california is going to come to boom any time soon. then, what you are dealing...
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the deficit then was nearly as big and that deficit was almost erased. how did roosevelt do that? created social security and levied heavier taxes, programs for housing and agriculture, put new controls over banks, public utilities and created enormous work relief programs for the unemployed. sounds similar to the president's proposals today, but unlike the last four years fdr saw the unemployment drop, millions of jobs created, gdp jumped, the deficit shrank and the middle class saw a huge expansion that lasted for decades, a building of the middle class that's the envy of the world or used to be. peter, peter morici, can this feat of rebuilding the middle class and reducing the deficit, can that happen again? >> absolutely, but we have to remember that roosevelt inherited a very small government, so expanding it wasn't the rock on the back of the private sector. a more comparable situation was reag reagan's dilemma, inherited an economy with double digit inflation and interest rates and unemployment that peaked at 10.8%, not 10 as mr. obama's did, but hy he took his stimulus in
the deficit then was nearly as big and that deficit was almost erased. how did roosevelt do that? created social security and levied heavier taxes, programs for housing and agriculture, put new controls over banks, public utilities and created enormous work relief programs for the unemployed. sounds similar to the president's proposals today, but unlike the last four years fdr saw the unemployment drop, millions of jobs created, gdp jumped, the deficit shrank and the middle class saw a huge...
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one is deficit reduction, one is tax cuts. cuts ie w we'll do deficit reduction. gwen: there's anoth numbe $716 million to deal with medicare but it's coming from different places and going to different places and trefore th fin - of de u in a draw. >> for the president's health care plan, in order to fund it they assumed savings over 10 years of $716 billion for medicare. mitt romney called that a cut in medicare as if it was a cut in beneficiaries. it's meant to come from providers. however, what romney was saying is that if you take that much from providers, some of them are going to stop taking medicare parents. the trick for him is that paul ryan, his running mate, also assumed the same $716 billion. gwen: and i believe romney's answer to that was i'm the candidate. >> i'm the boss. we're going to put that money back into medicare. gwen: going into these debates we were all probably guilty of setting the expectations bar and it was pretty high for president obama. i think the polls before showed him like 51% thought he was going to win. win.thought romney was
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our surplus, into a huge deficit. so, in paying the deficit down, you should score the fact that we are coming out of iraq and afghanistan. and, the other thing that the president has proposed and understands, is, that we cannot cut our way to prosperity. we need a balanced approach. and, growing our economy, by doing things like the senator does, like restructuring the auto industry, in order to put people back to work, and make manufacturing jobs grow, is one of the actions that we need to take, in order to do that. but, the fact of the matter is, the president because he has the responsibility of office, has been specific about what he proposes and mitt romney tells us, to trust him, with his plan, it is hiding behind door number 3, with carol merrill and his undisclosed tax returns. >> you know... really, the lines are great, but, chris, the bottom line is this: his budget, tax increase on i don't believe creators, budget gimmicks, and, brings us to $25 trillion in debt over ten years. in fact, this president has
our surplus, into a huge deficit. so, in paying the deficit down, you should score the fact that we are coming out of iraq and afghanistan. and, the other thing that the president has proposed and understands, is, that we cannot cut our way to prosperity. we need a balanced approach. and, growing our economy, by doing things like the senator does, like restructuring the auto industry, in order to put people back to work, and make manufacturing jobs grow, is one of the actions that we need to...
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our budget, we have a mess, i inherited a budget deficit of $26 billion. we have cut that substantially. from the mortgage meltdown that occurred because of the bad decisions and this behavior throughout our economy, the revenue in california is up 23%. that is a big number. america, the asset values were destroyed, something like $7 trillion. a lot of that was a bubble. that was popped and resulted -- we have had to manage a difficult situation. even before the bubble popping, there was excess. because the money flows in in a regular amounts, when money is good, everybody feels good. when $14 billion came in, they thought they were king of the mountain and spend it. arnold came in to clean it up. a couple years later, he left town and $26 billion this year. this has been the nature for the last decade, kicking the can down the road. not talking straight. the way it is. the way it is, it is a tale of two cities. there is fabulous wealth and link electronics, inc. model number: pdr-885 software version: 3.0c in some places it would be food or shelter or lov
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is surplus into a huge deficit. in n. paying deficit down you should score the fact we are coming out of iraq and afghanistan. the other thing that the president has proposed and that he he understands is we cannot cut our way to prosperity. we need a balanced approach and growing our economy by doing things leak the senator opposed like restructuring the auto industry in order to put people back to work and make manufacturing jobs grow is one of the actions we need to take in order to do that. the fact of the matter is the president because he has the responsibility of office has been specific about what he proposes and mitt romney tells us to trust him. his plan is hiding behind door number three with carroll merrill and his undisclosed tax returns. >> chris: i'm glad you practiced the line. >> the lines are great. his budget tax increase on job creators. budget gimmicks brings us to $25 trillion in debt over ten years. this president has added more are debt than any other president -- >> not true. >> he said he w
is surplus into a huge deficit. in n. paying deficit down you should score the fact we are coming out of iraq and afghanistan. the other thing that the president has proposed and that he he understands is we cannot cut our way to prosperity. we need a balanced approach and growing our economy by doing things leak the senator opposed like restructuring the auto industry in order to put people back to work and make manufacturing jobs grow is one of the actions we need to take in order to do that....
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enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math, it's arithmetic. >> get the rates down, lower deductions and exemptions to create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget to have more people working, earning more money and paying taxes and that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. a big night in denver on wednesday, as president barack obama, and mitt romney met for the first presidential debate and the candidates sparred as you heard over taxes and the deficit as well as health care. wall street reform and the role of government. with mitt romney taking some sharp shots at the president's record these past four years. >> we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and that's not working the. proof of that is 23 million people out of
enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math, it's arithmetic. >> get the rates down, lower deductions and exemptions to create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget to have more people working, earning more money and paying taxes and that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> paul: welcome to the...
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as far as the tax plan, look, he has said he will not pass a tax plan that is not deficit neutral. he's been very clear about this. his principles are do not change or modify the share of taxes paid at the upper income level, reduce the tax burden on the middle income level, cut rates across the board, particularly so you can create a more welcoming environment for small businesses, reduce the tax burden on small businesses, which are responsible for a disproportionate percentage of employment in this country, and you can do a lot of this by generating growth, getting rid of deductions, getting rid of a lot of the credits, getting rid of a lot of the loopholes and that is the plan he will put forward to congress. >> here's the thing. dan, here's the thing. nobody disputes that he intends to do some of this. what we don't know is how he intends to do it, and the specifics and until we get that, i think barack obama is perfectly entitled at the next two debates to take him on it, say hang on, you're cutting taxes by $5 trillion but what are you actually going to do to make up the $5
as far as the tax plan, look, he has said he will not pass a tax plan that is not deficit neutral. he's been very clear about this. his principles are do not change or modify the share of taxes paid at the upper income level, reduce the tax burden on the middle income level, cut rates across the board, particularly so you can create a more welcoming environment for small businesses, reduce the tax burden on small businesses, which are responsible for a disproportionate percentage of employment...
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me has to sock it to the middle class or explode the deficit. > deficit. >> reporter: what you're saying it it is unrealistic-- >> i'm saying it's impossible, not unrealistic. >> when president obama said in 2008 i'm going to cut the deficit in half, i'm going to close guilt me, people-- gitmo, people said-- did not sigh he was not telling the truth. >> closing gitmo involved congress and he couldn't get them to do that. the math, people over $200,000, and you still have a trillions of dollars hole, and he hasn't named the deductions he would close. this is a shell game, john. whichever shell you pick up, the middle class loses. the economy will lose, and i think that this is going to catch up with him. >> schieffer: what did the president think of his performance? >> i think the president understands-- you know, the president is his harshest critic, and without getting into detail, i think you can assume he has reviewed the tape and it will inform how he handles these subsequent debates. >> schieffer: do you think he was ill prepared. some are saying it was the people who prepared him.
me has to sock it to the middle class or explode the deficit. > deficit. >> reporter: what you're saying it it is unrealistic-- >> i'm saying it's impossible, not unrealistic. >> when president obama said in 2008 i'm going to cut the deficit in half, i'm going to close guilt me, people-- gitmo, people said-- did not sigh he was not telling the truth. >> closing gitmo involved congress and he couldn't get them to do that. the math, people over $200,000, and you still...
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i will not put in place a deficit thdea tax that adds to the deficit. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> we want to look at the facts here, again. mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's by reducing deductions and closing loopholes, but he hasn't said which or how many. so, the verdict here is simply incomplete. we just don't know. >> that was john burrman reporting there for us. one way, though, is that romney has said that he would actually pay for this reduced revenue is by capping itemized deductions, but still so few specifics. i mean, he floated the idea of capping deductions at 17,000 and then floated the idea of capping them at 25,000 or 50,000. don't voters deserve to know and need to know what it is going to be at this point? >> i think he's going to have to give more specifics, certainly. a debate may not be the best platform to give specifics because the answers are supposed to be short and, frankly, randi, he was able to get away with not giving many
i will not put in place a deficit thdea tax that adds to the deficit. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> we want to look at the facts here, again. mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's by reducing deductions and closing loopholes, but he hasn't said which or how many. so, the verdict here is simply incomplete. we just don't know. >> that was john burrman reporting there for us. one way,...
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you write today in the "washington post" that president obama may be the deficit for him was he's out of practice. what do you mean? >> well, look, people have come up with all kinds of explanations, and i particularly like al gore's notion that the altitude was too high for the president. in this case you see almost all incumbent presidents have a difficult time. they spent four years in the white house being cloistered around not challenged bir their aides, by lawmakers or anybody else or the press trying to ask questions. in obama's case that's been difficult because he set all kinds of modern records for avoiding the press, avoiding news conferences and chances to mix it up with the press. when you're not being kept on your toes, getting skeptical, even hostile questions regularly, you get out of practice and those muscles aatrophy. that may have contributed to what he was so flat and sweel see if he can get back into the game of being challenged. >> the flipside to that, romney seizes what he thinks is a great opportunity, the economy. it was like he was in the boardroom, but now
you write today in the "washington post" that president obama may be the deficit for him was he's out of practice. what do you mean? >> well, look, people have come up with all kinds of explanations, and i particularly like al gore's notion that the altitude was too high for the president. in this case you see almost all incumbent presidents have a difficult time. they spent four years in the white house being cloistered around not challenged bir their aides, by lawmakers or...
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and turn this deficit and trade around. that is the sort of thing that michael dukakis and i will do to bring about a better america for older people. >> senator quayle, a minute to respond. >> senator bentsen did not tell you very much about what gov. dukakis will do. donor do catkins, one of the most liberal governors in america. he has raised taxes five times. he just raised taxes last year. that is why i love people refer to him as tax hike mike. that is why they refer to the state of massachusetts as tax achussetts. i don't blame senator bentsen for not talking about michael dukakis. his talking more about his record. i had to blame the federal policies of -- the liberal policies of michael dukakis, i wouldn't do that either. >> you have the to protect the social security trust fund. but you must know that there's something to the argument of your fellow democrat bob strauss that some strain on security growth is needed or to tax social secure benefits as regular income. you spoke for a six-month delay on cost of milk
and turn this deficit and trade around. that is the sort of thing that michael dukakis and i will do to bring about a better america for older people. >> senator quayle, a minute to respond. >> senator bentsen did not tell you very much about what gov. dukakis will do. donor do catkins, one of the most liberal governors in america. he has raised taxes five times. he just raised taxes last year. that is why i love people refer to him as tax hike mike. that is why they refer to the...
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because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increasthe deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? ♪ >>> i was wondering what dogs song we were going to pick for this story. loyalty is one of the reasons we love dogs. what this dog, whose named zander, tried to do was truly extraordinary. when zander's owner went to the hospital, he tracked him down. i was playing with zander. turns out, white shedding dogs and black suits, don't go so well. >> everybody in the studio is falling in love with zander this morning. good morning, america. i'm bianna golodryga, along with dan harris on this saturday, october 6th. >>> also this morning, the iconic game show, "the price is right," is doing something it's never done before. the show has been a favorite for decades. known as much for the models as the amazing prizes. you may be amazed seeing the newest face. >> i loved being sick on sick days watching "the price is right." >>> we're going to start with a teacher/student sex scandal, one that allegedly goes all the
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. >> in division history only four teams have come back from a 2-0 deficit. >> let's make it five and six. >> which team do you think can do it? >> i'm a big guy. love the a's. both these teams can come up off the mat. the a's have a better shot because they're big hitters. >> they have big power. i want to thank everybody to walked in the alzheimer's walk. we raised $850,000. and you can still contribute as we continue our search to find a cure for alzheimer's. >> good work you do. >> thank you everybody who participated. that's awesome. you've been so dedicated to that cause. >> it's a good cause. >> and maybe
. >> in division history only four teams have come back from a 2-0 deficit. >> let's make it five and six. >> which team do you think can do it? >> i'm a big guy. love the a's. both these teams can come up off the mat. the a's have a better shot because they're big hitters. >> they have big power. i want to thank everybody to walked in the alzheimer's walk. we raised $850,000. and you can still contribute as we continue our search to find a cure for alzheimer's....
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even in the early '80s, the budget deficit was a lot smaller. that's the key reason i'd be concerned. i think tax reform is a good idea. doug is right. we need to have tax reform, but we need tax reform that raises enough revenue to lower tax rates and also goes to reducing future budget deficit because if we don't get the deficits down, lower tax rates aren't going help us. >> and doug, do you think it's fair to say, romney ryan have been saying they think a 3% growth is reasonable. do you think it is? because for in of this math to work out and this whole argument everybody's having about whether they can cut taxes and close enough loopholes, they are counting on economic growth on being part of making up that difference. will it? >> you can't say for sure because good tax policy does t matter. t not the only thing going on out there and you would have to have a displn palestinianed, economic policy. we have a serious threat to the economy from existed and projected debt. it is different from the era of reagan in that debt is not being driven
even in the early '80s, the budget deficit was a lot smaller. that's the key reason i'd be concerned. i think tax reform is a good idea. doug is right. we need to have tax reform, but we need tax reform that raises enough revenue to lower tax rates and also goes to reducing future budget deficit because if we don't get the deficits down, lower tax rates aren't going help us. >> and doug, do you think it's fair to say, romney ryan have been saying they think a 3% growth is reasonable. do...
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you're going to have $1 trillion deficit. he said i have not done anything yet. >> we can not keep looking our children in the eye knowing that we're going to give them a diminished future because we're spending their money today. it is a very simple idea. mayor ron and i am going to bring it to washington. we have to stop spending money we do not have. we must cut spending. we must get this balanced budget. we must get this debt under control. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. martha margaret. you can watch and engage with our live in debate preview starting seven got p.m. eastern filed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction at and 30 p.m. -- at 10:30 p.m. >> c-span's debate website provides life and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice- presidential debate. is on a place for you will see live coverage before and after the debate. it has each debate question as a separate. what your critics clips as well and read streaming tweets from political reporters. go to c-span.org
you're going to have $1 trillion deficit. he said i have not done anything yet. >> we can not keep looking our children in the eye knowing that we're going to give them a diminished future because we're spending their money today. it is a very simple idea. mayor ron and i am going to bring it to washington. we have to stop spending money we do not have. we must cut spending. we must get this balanced budget. we must get this debt under control. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden...
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if you really are going to make a dent in deficit reduction you don't pick on things like big bird. you pick on big things like tax cuts for multimillionaires. and -- so -- no, i don't think it is an irrelevant point but i agree we ought to be talking about what the next four years will bring because it looks like romney administration would just be one big surprise party. we have no idea what that is going to be like. so -- but i think the president and the vice president really do need to give the american people a clear sense of where they want to go. >> well, let's talk about that reset because, obviously the president did take a hit in the debate. and there have been a lot of headlines about worried democrats. do you think he needed to make the adjustments? we are hearing about it in his campaign. if he needs to do more, congressman, what is it? >> well, again, you know, i don't think the american people are really interested in who wins the fight between candidates. i think they want inform know what president obama is really willing to fight for. and he's talked time and time
if you really are going to make a dent in deficit reduction you don't pick on things like big bird. you pick on big things like tax cuts for multimillionaires. and -- so -- no, i don't think it is an irrelevant point but i agree we ought to be talking about what the next four years will bring because it looks like romney administration would just be one big surprise party. we have no idea what that is going to be like. so -- but i think the president and the vice president really do need to...
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we have to recognize we have a $1 trillion annual deficit. unless we deal with ways of getting revenue and cut spending we'll be in a bad situation in our country for quite some time. carried interest shouldn't be singled out. everything shoulgd be looked at. >> due agree it should be taken out. everything should be looked at. but with respect to carried interest. >> carried interest won't solve the problem. we have a $1 trillion annual deficit. carried interest would carry about one tenth of 1%. we should solve the deficit. >> it sounds like you say keep it. >> i'm saying look at everything but look at it in the context what it will kofl. our bigger is not carried interest it's the deficit and the $16 trillion of debt. that's a far greater problem. >> what would you do and what would you recommend whoever the next president do to solve the fiscal cliff crisis? >> first what i would recommend and again i was in government and i didn't solve all these problems so i'm not a person that has all the solutions but what i would recommend the next p
we have to recognize we have a $1 trillion annual deficit. unless we deal with ways of getting revenue and cut spending we'll be in a bad situation in our country for quite some time. carried interest shouldn't be singled out. everything shoulgd be looked at. >> due agree it should be taken out. everything should be looked at. but with respect to carried interest. >> carried interest won't solve the problem. we have a $1 trillion annual deficit. carried interest would carry about...
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it's not the deficit, it's the economy, wall street, meltdown. he starts talking about we put iraq, afghanistan, wars that biden himself voted for, he went down the wrong route after introducing a good point there. >> paul ryan didn't push him on that, wasn't quick enough to recognize -- >> you voted to are that, sir. >> that would have been painful. the stimulus letter discussion was absolutely devastating. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters. go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? we sent millions of dollars. >> you did ask for stimulus money? >> on two oaks we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. we do that for all constituents. >> i love that. i love that. >> i love that, too. once again, obstructionist republicans opposing policies that they actually support and know will be valuable for americans. >> the romney team had a bit of an issue this week, romney had a multiple choice situa
it's not the deficit, it's the economy, wall street, meltdown. he starts talking about we put iraq, afghanistan, wars that biden himself voted for, he went down the wrong route after introducing a good point there. >> paul ryan didn't push him on that, wasn't quick enough to recognize -- >> you voted to are that, sir. >> that would have been painful. the stimulus letter discussion was absolutely devastating. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters. go...
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we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr. romney's plan as stated in the debate may in fact sound right to you. but don't call it new. it's a been there, done that track record. lower taxes on the rich, simply don't lead to job growth. when you compare the top marginal income tax rate, the tax rate that top earners get taxed over the highest threshold with employment, growth happens when taxes are higher, not lower. let me show you a chart that the president could have used this week to simplify the whole debate. this is what the election boils down to right here. larry bartels' chart makes
we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr....
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romney will make the argument that the 16 trillion-dollar deficit -- debt, rather, is very much part of the obama administration's responsibility because of so much he added to it it substance for mr. romney having criticized joe biden for an absence of style last night, shep. >> shepard: carl cammeron live lancaster, ohio. certain states seem to matter more in this election than others, don't they? in every election the battleground or swing state which could go republic or democrat could matter the most. this year handful of states states including nevada and quarter. molly line with more on this live from boston. >> hi, shep. we turned from the states where they have been spending a lot of time. nevada glitz and glamour of the las vegas strip. real estate tough bed. highest unemployment rate in the nation at 12.1%. difficult place to convince people that things are going to get better. 6 electoral votes are at stake. real estate agent says the housing market has been disseminated. >> because of, you know, mitt romney and knowing how to manage money and obama being for the people,
romney will make the argument that the 16 trillion-dollar deficit -- debt, rather, is very much part of the obama administration's responsibility because of so much he added to it it substance for mr. romney having criticized joe biden for an absence of style last night, shep. >> shepard: carl cammeron live lancaster, ohio. certain states seem to matter more in this election than others, don't they? in every election the battleground or swing state which could go republic or democrat...
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coming back from 2-0 deficits to tie things up and forcing a crucial game five for today. we'll be live in oakland and cincinnati coming up next. >> reporter: a possible break this morning in the case of mikayla garrett, the hayward girl who disappeared in 1988. hayward police now testing a bone fragment. i'm christie smith. i'll tell you where it came from coming up. >>> and you might want to pull out the umbrella and the jacket this morning. a chilly
coming back from 2-0 deficits to tie things up and forcing a crucial game five for today. we'll be live in oakland and cincinnati coming up next. >> reporter: a possible break this morning in the case of mikayla garrett, the hayward girl who disappeared in 1988. hayward police now testing a bone fragment. i'm christie smith. i'll tell you where it came from coming up. >>> and you might want to pull out the umbrella and the jacket this morning. a chilly